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Re: The Mystery of Vegetable-Tanned Leathers
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2011, 02:23:20 AM »
Thanks! Just wanna share some informations we know here :)

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Re: The Mystery of Vegetable-Tanned Leathers
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2011, 05:29:42 AM »
2 weeks usage, oiled twice and tanned for 2 hrs.
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http://obbigoodfrance.blogspot.com/2011/04/documenting-veg-tan-progress.html

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The area near the edges darken considerably


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Comparing the darken edges and the centre potion, creating a contrasting 2 tone.
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Re: The Mystery of Vegetable-Tanned Leathers
« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2011, 05:07:36 PM »
Corter4Japan

1 May 2011 (Untreated)



Finally there is sun...

7 May 2011 (Sun-tan for 3 hours)



(1x Mink Oil)




Comparing it with OGL belt(1x Mink oil without tanning):

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Re: The Mystery of Vegetable-Tanned Leathers
« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2011, 04:40:01 AM »
Hi i am new to this leather stuff but i have some questions too.

1. What is the use to mink oil ur leather? and basically i don't know what is mink oil  ;D
2. Why you want to sun tan your leather? is it to make it darker?
3. How long does leather goods can last? for my understanding all items are bound by wear and tear, so i am just curious how long they will last.

Thanks :D
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Re: The Mystery of Vegetable-Tanned Leathers
« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2011, 09:38:25 AM »
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Re: The Mystery of Vegetable-Tanned Leathers
« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2011, 11:19:06 AM »
yesss. hahaha. answer my questions bosss. hahahaha i am curious. hahahaha
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Re: The Mystery of Vegetable-Tanned Leathers
« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2011, 12:48:58 PM »
Hi i am new to this leather stuff but i have some questions too.

1. What is the use to mink oil ur leather? and basically i don't know what is mink oil  ;D
2. Why you want to sun tan your leather? is it to make it darker?
3. How long does leather goods can last? for my understanding all items are bound by wear and tear, so i am just curious how long they will last.

Thanks :D

I am absolutely no expert, but might share some of my experiences, ok?
1.) Leather gets dry with time, which may cause cracks or tears -  as seen on many leather patches of jeans, that have beeen washed often. Oil keeps the leather dry and flexible, prevents it from cracking. But it also makes it darker. Mink Oil is in my experience more "gel-like", compared to fluid oils like boot oil. You have to massage it into the leather. It does not darken the leather as much as fluid oils.
2.) As it is animal skin, sun can tan natural leathers and thus make them darker. But I think you have to live in a southern region to see real effects.
3.) Practically forever, if treated right and if the leather is of some quality. I've sseen 30 YO Red Wings which have been maintained properly and are still flexible and nice.

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Re: The Mystery of Vegetable-Tanned Leathers
« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2011, 02:02:57 PM »
Thanks Max for the answer!

hmm so its ok right if i don't want to sun tan my leather? I prefer the pinkish colour hahaha. so am i right to say that if i don't want to make my leather colour to be darker i should use mink oil? and how often i should oil my leather?
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Re: The Mystery of Vegetable-Tanned Leathers
« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2011, 02:35:09 PM »
Thanks Max for the answer!

hmm so its ok right if i don't want to sun tan my leather? I prefer the pinkish colour hahaha. so am i right to say that if i don't want to make my leather colour to be darker i should use mink oil? and how often i should oil my leather?

Well, Mink oil will also darken the leather, but I found that it takes two to three layers or repeated oiling sessions to see a significant difference. Besides the oiling, leather gets darker over time anyway, there is not much you can do against it. Of course, there is no need to sun tan, just don't do that, if you like a lighter colour.

There is no rule when to oil your leather, but you shouldn't do it too often, nor too seldom. Sounds stupid, but this is how it is. If you feel the leather getting dry or grainy, it's high time to oil. But don't drown it in oil or do that too frequently, as it may give a wax-like look to the leather. In the Red Wing store in Hamburg are many samples of really old shoes. Some are treated right and look fabulous, some haven't been oiled at all and cracked, some have been oiled too often and developped a black patina. Moderation is the key, as so often in life.
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Re: The Mystery of Vegetable-Tanned Leathers
« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2011, 02:39:32 PM »
Thanks max. i am going to get some mink oil soon for my leather goods soon then :D

any brand to recommend?
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Re: The Mystery of Vegetable-Tanned Leathers
« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2011, 02:43:01 PM »
Hey leyori. Might wanna check this thread out!

http://www.indigoroots.com/index.php?topic=18.0

Similar questions have been asked there and been answered! Hope it helps!
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Re: The Mystery of Vegetable-Tanned Leathers
« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2011, 02:43:38 PM »
You can use Red Wing Mink Oil, that's pretty cheap and good. (http://www.classicredwingshoes.co.uk/product.php?name=mink-oil)
 Another option would be Mustang Paste (http://en.item.rakuten.com/t-royal/1381897/) or obenauf oil, but that's real fluent oil, not like Mink Oil (http://www.baileysonline.com/itemdetail.asp?item=25985)
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Re: The Mystery of Vegetable-Tanned Leathers
« Reply #27 on: June 01, 2011, 02:47:25 PM »
Hi i am new to this leather stuff but i have some questions too.

1. What is the use to mink oil ur leather? and basically i don't know what is mink oil  ;D
2. Why you want to sun tan your leather? is it to make it darker?
3. How long does leather goods can last? for my understanding all items are bound by wear and tear, so i am just curious how long they will last.

Thanks :D

Good points Max. Just wanna add some more points if you don't mind.

1) Mink oil is often used to protect leather and sort of like giving the leather some vitamins, nourishing it. It is actually oil from the mink, as the name suggests. It contains fatty acids which soften the leather fibre but some people are saying it will do harm using mink oil (I shall not dwell more into it as I don't have the concrete evidence that mink oil is no good)

2) as per Max had said. To me, sun tanning also warms up the leather when I intend to apply LP or oil

3)as per Max had said. Unless you thrash the leather in a highly corrosive environment, normal usage and proper sensible care will make it last pretty long. Using Red Wings shoes as example, some even said the boots will outlive the owner if properly maintained. lol


as regarding to what you asked about keeping the leather pinkish. It will get darken overtime and due to our body natural oil and dirt.

x-post from OGL thread: (this is what the leather looks like brand new, and after 2 coats of leather oil)

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Re: The Mystery of Vegetable-Tanned Leathers
« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2011, 05:04:45 PM »
Thanks for the explanation mikey and max!
 Hmm what is LP stand for?
Yeah i will keep my leather the natural way, let it age over time. :)  since i like those pinkish colour hehe
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Re: The Mystery of Vegetable-Tanned Leathers
« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2011, 05:48:04 PM »
Hmm what is LP stand for?

LP= Leather Protection/Preservation.

Good explanation, guys :)